Filomena Circelli
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Thank you for joining us today to learn more about our Accelerated Nursing Program.
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OK, so we're going to go ahead and get started again if you have any problems. You can't see the slides or you can't hear me just give me a quick note and then hopefully it's not everybody and then we can figure it out. So we so thank you to everyone for joining us today to learn a little bit more butter accelerated programs again. My name is Philomena Church Alley, the associate program director for our accelerated programs here at the School of Nursing and today we're really going to talk about.
Specifically, the accelerated program. We're going to go over the different program options are going to talk about the prerequisite courses. The admissions timeline, the application requirements and then will also talk a little bit about goals related to nursing how you can reach your goals in terms of your nursing education and all of the wonderful opportunities that are available being a Penn Student and then we'll talk a little bit about the clinical hospital experiences that you can have here as well as.
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Perfect alright so we're going to get started so our accelerated program. Just put that everybody knows the application is available. It's live, you can start the app. You don't have to submit the app at any point just wanna make sure can everybody still hear me. I see that one person can't hear me just make sure that you don't have us muted.
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So the application is available. The deadline is October 15th you can start the app. You don't have to submit it. There's no early decision rolling admissions or anything along those lines. Now, for a lot of students. You know you're here because you're thinking about a career nursing and for Penn. We have 3 different options that you get to choose if you're coming back for a nursing degree so under our accelerated umbrella. We have 3 different options that students can choose from when applying to our program, the first one, is the BSN second degree program, which is.
I know I want to be a nurse, I know I want to go into the field. I have an idea of what I might want to do there might be a specialty. I want to focus on I know. I want to be a nurse practitioner, but I'm really not positive in terms of specialty right now or in terms of the advanced practice roll right now, so I'm going to go into the second degree applied to the BSN and once you finish the BSN. You can go on for the Masters. DNP PhD a variety of different options, then we have our BSN MSN program.
And that one is for students who know what graduate specialty. They want to do or what program they are leaning towards and for that one. You do have to know your specialty so you would apply to the BSN portion and the MSN portion and you would choose your MSN specialty. I know it says NDMP program, there, but right now. We don't have a direct entry for nursing. Esthesia and we'll talk a little bit about that after.
The next thing the next option is the home and BS and PhD and naturally for the student who knows. They want to go into research academia. They have questions that they want answered, they want to delve into specific areas of research anywhere from going from policy to end of life care to public health issues. There's just so many different things that you can be part of now, it doesn't matter which option you choose second degree. BSN MSN BSN. PhD the BSN portion is exactly the same and your one cohort for the entire BSN.
In June, so as of right now, the start date is June, 8th of 2020. It's an 18 month BSN program. So doesn't matter which which of the three options. You've chosen it's going to be 18 months for the BSN at the end of the VS annual sit for the ancl X exam become a registered nurse and then after that, you can kind of decide what you want to ultimately do within those 18 months. If you're in the BSN MSN track. You'll be able to take some graduate level courses. You'll take up to 3 grad level courses, while you're finishing your undergraduate degree if you're in our Hillman BSN to pH do you take a lot more classes. I think it might be as high as 5?
Account torture PhD so it kind of gets you a little bit more connected to that specialty if you have an idea of what you want to ultimately go into?
They length of the graduate specialty really, really depends on the specialty you choose. All of our nurse practitioner programs are 12 to 16 months full time are nurse midwifery in administration specialty about 18 months and then nurse anesthesia is a 3 year full-time DNP program. An I'll talk a little bit about why it's listed there, but you can send matriculate and you can apply to the anesthesia program, while you're at Penn. Once you're at Penn. Our goal is to matriculate a class of about 85 to 90 accelerated students so it's a nice small cohort.
You really get to know each other very well. You get to know the faculty very well. Uhm you know the nursing school is only about 1300 students from the BS into the PhD so it's that perfect. You know it's not too big but you're part of the University of Pennsylvania have access to all of those resources, which will talk about. But the accelerated cohorts about 85 to 90 students admit rate is 27 to about 30%. We can fluctuate year to year, slightly where a national program over 17 states are represented in each cohort.
You know on a yearly basis, sometimes it's high or sometimes we have international students as well. And then of course for underrepresented minorities were over 20% usually you know something that we can definitely continue to work on as well.
The accelerated nursing program so this is the timeline. This is the admissions process for students so the application is available right now, the deadline is October 15th of 2019, Please note.
We don't have early decision. We don't have rolling admissions were not deciding applications or just making decisions before the 15th so feel free to submit your application at any point just make sure it's submitted by the 15th. We review applications. In October, November and December after the deadline. We go to committee in January and we hope to notify all applicants at the same time in early February. We have a deposit deadline.
Of uh around mid March and then of course, students will start around Jimmy.
Prerequisite courses so and I spent too much time on this, but there's a couple of things I always want to mention.
Keep it simple keep an introductory courses so intruded human anatomy, and Physiology, not comparative not animal human based anatomy, Physiology, you can do it as a combined course which would be anatomy, Physiology part one and Part 2 or you can do 2 separate courses human anatomy and then human Physiology, and you have to make sure you have a human. Anatomy lab for that combination for the other combinations if temple apps for both sections. In terms of chemistry into bio internal Micro Intruding Nutrition. Internal stats as you can see it's the foundation of nursing.
We just want to have those introductory courses. You can the classes can be over 10 to 12 years old. It's perfectly fine except for anatomy and Physiology. We really want to see that you've completed amp recently within the last 5 to 6 years. 6 is the highest will go and microbiology. We do prefer that it's under the 10 year. Mark just because there are always new viruses and new.
Hum guys and things coming up so they wanted to make sure that you're a little bit more up-to-date with that. The other classes. We will go 10 to 12 years and you also need to have at least AC or higher. In all of those classes for it to transfer so you need a C or higher.
If you have a C minus you have to retake the class because we can't officially transfer it in but again, you can take these classes anywhere, you can take them on line as long as it has a virtual lab, you can take them out of local Community College. You can take them at your 4 year institution wherever and however. It works best for you as you want to just make sure that you do really well in those classes, especially if you're taking them over, there, if you taken them over. The last 2 years or will be taking them this year, you wanted to do extremely well on them.
Um application requirements, so this is a little bit about the application itself, so the good news is that everything is pretty much submitted online. We do everything online. So our application and consists of the actual physical application. We ask you, your personal information work history things like that. We have a personal statement where you talk about why nursing my pen your future goals to really important in the personal statement to really address why nursing.
A good fit for you and then if you're applying to a direct entry program or to the helm and you know why that specialty why that PhD.
Um there's a lot of health care careers out there that give you the clinical exposure that give you that one on one experience. If that's what you're looking for. There's a lot of areas of research. You can go into you know what is it about nursing that makes it a good fit for you. You want to make sure you address that and the personal statements the best place to do that as well. We require 2 recommendations. It's really important if you have recently graduated from college from your undergraduate degree.
Within the last 2 to 3 years I definitely definitely recommend at least 1 academic rack.
If you've graduated if you're still in undergrad and you're graduating and then coming straight to our program. Two of your recommendation should be academic.
Uhm I think academic recommendations really add to your application, especially few or somewhat of a recent graduate. Now, if you've been out of college for over 3 years. You've been working in the field. You are not working in the field. But you have work history. You can definitely have a supervisor right your second recommendation if you just want to one academic we require too. You can do up to 3, so if your current student undergrad or you just graduated within the last 2 years. You could do 2 academic and one non academic if you've been.
Out for over 10 to 15 years from undergrad and you don't feel connection with where you're taking your prereqs you can do 2 supervisory recommendations, and maybe a third wreck be someone that you're volunteering with maybe somebody who shadowed with, but I find that applications that have academic and supervisory recommendations hold the most weight when evaluating those recommendations. So just something to think about is your kind of mapping everything out if you are an English major.
You don't need an academic recommendation from a science professor if you're an English major and you've got great relationships with some of the professors within your major. I would definitely have a recommendation from them over someone that you took intruded Cam with and don't know very well.
So, just some tips there for the recommendations. We also require all college transcripts. The good news is that we're not requiring official transcripts for your application to be read indecision where only requiring official transcript. If you were accepted to Penn and you decide to matriculate to pen so in the mean time? What you could do is get just copies of your transcripts, said get them sent home scan them into your computer that way. You can upload them into the application moves. The application at a much faster pace it allows us to.
Get your application redecked decision, it and hopefully get get decisions out. Early February, but you don't need official transcripts to be set at this time.
Resume we're going to talk a little bit more about the resume in the next slide. So I'm just going to skip over that one. The next thing is the Jerry. We do require the jury if you're applying to the home and be ascended. PhD the jury is required for the PhD at the University level. So we can't waive. It currently but if you're applying to RBS and MSN program. We are offering a Jerry waiver for students who have an undergraduate bachelors their undergraduate bachelors GPA is a 3.2 or higher.
Or uhm if you're currently in college if your current GPA is a 3.2 or higher. Your wave from taking the Jerry or if you have completed a graduate degree you're automatically waved and it doesn't matter what your GPA is so just know that we had that Jerry Waiver. I know some students have to take the juries anyways for different programs so if you've taken the GR ES. You did, well in the Jeries. Please submit them to us. You know it doesn't hurt your application. If you're around the 60th percentile and the juries and you've taken them go ahead and submit them to us.
The next piece, which is new for pan is the video interview. So the video interview, the way we have it set up right now is that it does like 4 to 5 questions that we ask you know, some of them might seem like it's similar to the personal statement. And it might repeat some of the personal statement ideas, but it's really just to kind of get better overview of your interest your goals and to give students a different Ave to express that interest so we talk about why nursing we talk about your goals how you see yourself practicing? Why do you want to come to Penn? What do you hope to accomplish when you come here? What do you want to be involved with and then we ask.
A little bit about your leadership skills you have up to 10 minutes to complete the interview. You don't have to talk, for 10 full minutes. If you're able to answer those questions. In 7, 1/2 minutes go for it give us the tell us what it is put it in there and that's fine. It doesn't have to go to the full 10 minutes. You get to practice one just to kind of make sure the systems working and record. Then you have one where you can actually record save it and use it. And if you don't like it. You can record a second time so you kind of get 3 tries with the video interviews so.
Definitely make sure it works, try to make sure that the lighting is pretty good, so that we get to see you in the video and you know, definitely just tell us a little bit more about yourself. That's just the opportunity is for now. Some of our direct entry programs may still require in person interviews, there still deciding we're piloting the video interview this year is just to see how it goes, but historically are nurse midwifery faculty Women's Health. Faculty tend to interview no matter if they have a video interview or not.
So I will keep everyone posted once the deadline passed passed to give you you know more guidelines on what to do. When to do it? What's coming up all that fun stuff?
And then of course, our financial aid forms that we have a deadline of December, 15th for financial aid. And you'll get emails from us as well after the deadline to submit that paperwork by the 15th.
What is the admissions committee looking for so you know it's a lot of requirements is a lot of information but you know what is Penn looking for and How do I put my best foot forward Asmaa Asmaa flying depend there's a couple of things that we look at there's kind of 2 sides to your application, there's the quantitative side right your GPA your science grades and then there's the non quantitative side, so I will say your undergraduate GPA we recommend a minimum of a 3.0 or higher. The average of the admitted class tends to lean towards the 3.5 range.
But I promise you we deny students with really high GPA's because the other stuff doesn't pan out. We also admit students with GPS under a 3.0. So it's the full range of GPS that we look at, I will say if you are somewhat of a recent graduate from your undergraduate education your GPA is much more important than someone who's been out for 7 to 10 years and has work history that GPA doesn't become as important because you're out and you're out in the community.
And you're working and you have a different kind of career path that you've taken if you were still in undergrad or graduate within the last 2 years I'd seen your GPS and a little bit more important in the overall scheme of things. The one thing that I cannot stress enough is that we do holistic approach to the admissions process. The beauty of the accelerated program is that everyone comes into these programs in different stages of their life with different backgrounds different interests different goals. So you can't just say you have to have.
XY and Z to be admitted it's really that package. So we look at your academic record. You know how well did you do an undergrad but then we also specifically look at your science grades, especially anything you've recently completed anatomy and Physiology to us is a very important class. It really creates the foundation to do well in our pathophysiology pharmacology course clinical experiences. So we want to see that students have done well in those classes, so if you haven't taken them. Yet make sure you set yourself up for success and have time to do really well in those classes.
And also really take the time to learn Azure. In it, it's not just about the grade. You want to create that strong foundation, so as you start the nursing program, the transition is a little bit smoother.
So those are 2 things that we look at but then we also look at all. This other stuff. You know, we want students that want to go into nursing that are passionate about the field. But then I've also taken the time to be exposed to the field. We want students to have exposure to health care and that can mean everything from personal health care experience give a sick family member. If you've been sick. If you had experiences with the health care system shadowing volunteer work research experience.
You know being a CNA in EMT, they're not required. We don't have required hours. But we want to see that an applicant took the time to really explore the field of nursing that this is really what they want to do and that they're going to come here and they're going to be excited about it really not just committed to nursing, but committed to Penn and to kind of giving back to the community here because we want students who get involved on campus, with a lot of the activities. We've got going on study abroad.
The simulation lab doing research with faculty will talk a little bit more about that. But this those are kind of the main things that we look at and then of course, your recommendations support that your personal statement can really tell us about your exposure to health care. It's where you can put a lot of that information. You can also put a lot of information on your resume. We're not expecting a one page work resume. It can be a CV, it can be 2 pages can be longer include your hobbies include your interest your travel different languages, you speak.
Include all of the shadow in the volunteer work all of that stuff can be included into your resume. I always recommend to students if they're still working on their resume to have a section that says like healthcare related experiences and kind of list them and highlight them on your resume even if you currently work in clinical research, obviously, that's a huge piece of your job. You can still have it listed there and then in the employment section of your resume you can tell us a little bit more about what you do every day, but you can highlight that exposure whether it's.
Shadowing montier work working for non for profits. I'm working in the community doing public health work. Not everything is black and white. In terms of clinical exposure and healthcare exposure. You know, we have students that have worked.
At the Food Bank and they've spent 2 years working at the Food Bank and it was through. That experience that led them to nursing because they realized the chronic health issues that community members have and when you don't have X to healthy foods? How do you keep those chronic issues at Bay? How do you keep them from becoming critical and affecting your everyday life and seeing those when you look on the on the resume or thinking well. That doesn't seem really directly related to health care, but then as they explain it in their personal statement. You can really see the connection so.
Definitely up to the applicant to make those connections in your personal statement so make sure you take the time to do that as well.
And, of course, you know as you guys have questions right jot them down and then we'll do the Q&A at the end.
So graduates specialties these are all of our graduates specialties that we offer. We've 11 nurse practitioner programs everything from me. Neonatal up to adult and Gerald Primary in acute care, we have Women's Health Psych family. Pete's primary and then we also acute care in Pediatrics, and adult in general. We have a nurse anesthesia program nurse made with great leadership and administration programs now for the graduate program.
One of the beauties of being a BSN MSN student in this weather. You come in BSN MSN right now as a time of application or you come in second degree and you said matriculate into one of our graduate programs. All of these things that I'm talking about you have the benefit of as well. So if you come in. In June of 2020 is a second degree student. You apply to one of our Masters programs through some matriculation in the spring. You have the opportunity to take 3 graduate level courses, while you're in the VSN you also have the opportunity to switch your specialty so you'll have all of those opportunities as well.
But the one thing that I always like to tell students is that?
The PSN is 18 months structured we can make it longer. We can't make it shorter if there's a sequence too. It's really hard to kind of move things around. You really have to be here for 18 months stay on that track the end of the 18 months. You can go sit for the end clicks become a registered nurse go into the workforce. You can go into a graduate program. You can do both at the same time you have a lot of flexibility once you finish that BSN our graduate programs, except for the anesthesia program are all flexible, meaning that you can usually I'm sorry anesthesia in midwifery.
You can work full you can go do it part time or full time. We also give all of our students up to 5 years to come back from when they complete their BSN to start their MSN course and complete their Masters degree here at Penn and then for anesthesia. We extended to 6 years, just because it's a longer program so it gives you time to make decisions based on what you ultimately want to do the other op the other thing is that certain programs require that you work after the VSN so if you want to go into any cute care critical care oncology, Neo Natal nurse.
Anesthesia you have to work in the field whether it's a doctor pediatric you have to work in the field prior to coming back to start those clinicals. They all require one year of work experience in the field, except for neonatal which requires 2 years in the Nick you so you finish your BSN after 18 months. You work for maybe a year to 2 years, while you're working you can take non clinical courses at Penn. If you decide to stay in Philly, you can also do your work experience anywhere, you want in the US as well.
Possibly internationally, we had to double check for that could have the right amount of critical care and I see you experienced and neonatal and etc. Experience based on what you want to do, but you you can work and then you can come back your spot saved you come back and finish your degree on a part time or full time basis.
Our primary care programs, plus our nurse midwifery program do not require work experience if you want to go into site pizza primary family adult and Gerald primary nurse midwifery. You do not need to work in the field as an RN prior to starting your Masters degree so at that point you finish your BSN. You set for the end clicks in the spring and then you start the program summer fall depending on which specialty chosen and you can come and straight through full time for both it's up to you alot of students will do a combination of different things.
Everyone comes in with one plan and I'm pretty sure about 75% of them change. It within the first 18 months at their here and the plans change, but there's a lot of wonderful flexibility. That's offered once you kind of finish that first part of the program.
We also do not lock our students into their specialty you can change your specialty.
It's not guaranteed the switch is not guaranteed. But you do have the opportunity to switch so if you came in for our family health nurse practitioner program. You realize you really want to do Women's Health specifically you would have to meet with the program director for Women's Health meet with them. Talk to them, they might have you write an updated essay? Maybe interview with them and then they would accept you into their specialty or not 90% of the time this which is possible and it's not a problem. I will say for nursing. Esthesia, you could never switch into the anesthesia program, you always have to apply to the anesthesia program.
And if you're thinking of switching into nurse midwifery you definitely have to make sure you have a little bit more exposure to the field of midwifery prior to requesting that switch, but in general. It's pretty fluid for students and the sooner. You know the easier your plan of study will be mapped out as well.
So this is a sample plan of study for our accelerated program. This is for the BSN portion. It's 18 months, you hear summer fall spring summer fall. The nice thing about our accelerated program. I know where one of the longer programs at 18 months. But the nice thing about it is that we give you breaks so you get about a week off between summer and fall. You get about 2, 1/2 to 3 weeks between fall and spring. You have spring break cough and over the summer. You have a couple of weeks off between spring and summer and then.
Almost a month off between summer and fall so that allows you time to kind of regroup re energize refocus figure out what you just learned try to retain it and get ready, and prepared for the next series of. Of course, is it also allows you to also really be involved on campus, which we're going to talk a little bit more about in terms of the opportunities. You can take advantage of.
So these are some of the clinical placements. I mean, pen has over 100 nursing has over 200 undergraduate.
BSN clinical sites and then we have over 1000 clinical sites. If you include our graduate programs. The first three hospitals listed there. The hospital University, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Hospital, which is actually the 1st Hospital in the US and Presbyterian Medical Center. Those 3 are part of the pen health system, which is what we call the hospital University, Pennsylvania for sure.
Is what we call that is one of the Top hospitals in the country and it's right next door to the Nursing School Presbyterian Medical Center 6 blocks North of the nursing building and Pennsylvania Hospital is downtown Philly, which is an easy bus ride. Trolley bike ride walk. Whatever works for the student. But those 3 hospitals. We definitely are clinicals there. There's a total of 7 clinicals into the art in the RN program so of the 7 clinicals. Most students will do their Med surg in Gerontology.
Clinicals at the hospital University of Pennsylvania or Presbyterian Medical Center, so two of your Seven are very close to the nursing school, then we also have the Children's Hospital, Philadelphia, not affiliated with patterns independent but the number 2 Children's Hospital in the country. It's right next door, which is wonderful and a lot of our faculty, both at the program level and the graduate level have clinical appointments at these hospitals, so they are clinically practicing they're actively practicing with patients.
And then there also teaching enjoying research so it's a great combination. So the pediatric rotation is at chop and chop is literally next door. You can throw a rocking and it hit the building. So we're really lucky in terms of where we're located being so close to Children's Hospital and being so close to the health system.
Then you will do clinicals in OB an we do go out to the suburbs so like a non Paoli Hospital 2. Suburban hospitals community hospitals out in the suburbs where students can do their OB rotation and we also go to Pennsylvania hospital for Rob as well as the health system for a hub for R0B 0B.
An well women clinical so then we have our site clinical an our community. Health clinical and there throughout the city of Philadelphia throughout the Metropolitan area. You do not need a car for the first portion of the program. You do not need a car while you're doing the RN program here at Penn. All of the sites you can get to via public transit or walking or it's next door to the nursing building.
If you cannot get to those so like for our community health. We do Hospice. We do home health. Obviously, you can't get to those locations with public transit if you're doing home health. You've got 3 to 4 homes are going to go visit in one full day So what we do is we create an account with Philly car share Zipcar and then as long as you have a valid drivers license. You can request the car and if you're with a group of students doing a clinical you can go together. If you're on your own. You can drive yourself as well. This is just for the BSN portion of the program.
Not the graduate at the graduate level, you may need a car you may need access to a carnal regular basis, but pen does not supply a car at the graduate level, but it depends on the specialty that you've chosen an the different sites. You might need to go to 90% of our grad students do need a car based on their based on their specialty.
So this is just a snapshot of the clinical experience for those of you that haven't been to Philadelphia to great opportunity to be here at Penn. You know, we're really close to the Hub Presbyterian Children's Hospital. We also have three other major healthcare systems in the city within like 2, 1/2 miles of each other so it's a pretty dynamic place to be in terms of being in the healthcare field. These are some of the opportunities that are better available to Penn Penn students, so one of the things I always like to mention to students is that we are first and foremost.
You are first and foremost a University of Pennsylvania student you have access to the entire University of access to all of the resources that pen can offer you but the nursing schools. A small school were only 1300 students. You're really going to get to know our faculty. You're really going to get to know the staff as well as your cohort so it's really the best of both worlds. It's a community within the nursing school that gives you kind of that small.
Community feel, but the resources of a large University, which include research opportunities pens. A huge research institution give any interest whatsoever. If you're currently doing research and want to continue if you've never done it and you want to try it.
It's a wonderful place to be faculty department's all across campus are really excited when students are interested. In doing research here at Penn. So it's definitely something to think about as you kind of consider all of the different options that you can take advantage of being a Penn student number of our students do research and it's not just at the University level. You also have the Children's Hospital. Philadelphia that accept students doing research and our health system does research as well.
Wonderful student organizations we have there's hundreds on Penn's campus, but I'd say, there's like you know 5 or 6 that are really, really popular with our accelerated student and the most popular. I would say is our United Community Clinic student organization, which is an interdisciplinary student run health clinic in West Philadelphia and we have nursing students. Social work dental an Med students and they all volunteer their time at a makeshift clinic in West Philly on Monday nights.
It's a great opportunity, not just to get hands on experience working with community members and practicing your history, taking skills and health assessment and all of those things. It is a wonderful opportunity to also meet students outside of nursing and to really kind of find out like? What are the social services available? Where do people go? What can you do? How does working with other healthcare professionals in clinic environment within the clinic there's a hypertension clinic.
So there's just wonderful opportunities that's just one there's a lot of other organizations that one has the most hands-on clinical opportunity. But we also have some onther interdisciplinary kind of student government. Typeof Args that you can get involved is as an accelerated student. We also combined program so if you're interested in getting a Masters in public health and Masters in bioethics or Masters in Business Administration. You can apply to those programs, while you're doing your BSN and then once you start MSN we can create a plan of study that combines those 2 together.
Summer tribulation, we already talked about this a matriculation option for our second degree students. I would say between 1670% of our second degrees applied to the Masters Program, or DNP program for anesthesia. While there a student in the undergraduate program in the BSN program here pen.
Anne give over 90% acceptance rate for them, so once you're here and you get to be exposed to the different clinicals you'll really get a good sense of what you want to ultimately do.
We also offer study abroad opportunities for students so.
The Botswana trip is the only one that has a clinical component to it. We didn't go last summer. We tried to go to Trinidad. So I don't know if this year is going to be Botswana or turn it in. It's going to be one of the 2 so those are the 2.
That's the one clinical that has a community that has a clinical component and students would do their community health clinical in Botswana in summer 20.
21 instead of being here in Philadelphia, doing your community health clinical. The other programs listed or more observationally based trips. Thailand you go with our Women's Health faculty and its public health focused Hong Kong is gerontology focus. But you also do a lot with eastern versus Western Medison. How they integrate how their separate in Latin America. We either go to Honduras or Guatemala and its maternal infant care in the Americas and it's with our midwifery faculty.
That one's a little bit more hands-on 'cause they do health fairs in communities and they also shadow bit wives, and sometimes can catch babies and all that fun stuff. India have been community in Psych. Mental health focus and in new tour different facilities. You meet different health care professionals. You meet nursing students in that country and it's really comparing the healthcare systems to the US and then Spain is our community health clinical. We also have pen global which is the University and they have some short term programs if it.
Really nicely into our accelerated students plan to study. I think it's gonna and chili or the 2 and its health care related healthcare focused and it allows you to call broad as well.
So you know, I talked a little bit about the combination of Penn and nursing together so.
There's wonderful resources within the nursing school. We have an office of student services so you can go to someone and say, I'm really interested in the study abroad program despain. I want to some matriculate into nurse midwifery and I want to possibly apply to the MPH program and they would work with you to really figure out like what classes should you take? How do we map this out? What will it look like if you need to help with a certain class. They can refer you to the different resources on campus as well.
Everyone has a faculty advisor and appeared visor. That's assigned to them and you pretty much meet with your faculty advisor every semester or you're blocked from registering for classes and then your peer advisors really part of your experience for the first six months that you're here at Penn.
Then the University has amazing resources we've got a great career services center. We've got a counseling and Psychological Services Center. The Winegeart Learning Resource Center is wonderful. There's a tutoring center within their writing center if you haven't written a paper in a PA format in a long time you can go to Weingarten Learning Center kind of just go over it. If you haven't a paper in a while, you can go in there and really talk about your outline and the process and all of those things if you need time management help, they can help you with that.
There's so many different resources at the Learning Resource Center that it's definitely a huge resource for all of our students here on Patton and then of course, we've got our fitness center, state of the Art Project Health Center has a swimming pool. Classes rock climbing wall a variety of other things, and then when the weather is nice. We also have what we call Penn Park, which is just baseball fields, soccer fields track where you can just go out and play sports exercise whatever you want to do.
Kimberly Pierre
12:40:19 PM
Hi! I have a few questions.
So that's mines feel for you guys. Hopefully there's some good information in there, so now, what we're going to do is we're going to open it up to questions. The other thing is that this. This webinars recording so at the end within 3 days. I think it's three days you'll get an email with the actual recording you'll see the slides so you can kind of go back and refer to it. If you need to so feel free to email any questions, you have about the application.
The admissions process the program campus. The city of Philadelphia, which I don't really talk much about Philly butt.
I'm a huge supporter Philadelphia so many questions about that and then go from there.
And you can ask your questions. The other chat system so put your question into the chat. It's really hard to do it via audio because then everyone has their audio on and then there's background noise.
Kimberly Pierre
12:40:59 PM
1. I took chem 1 and 2 in undergrad. Is using chem 2 as my grade okay?
Riana Nicolaysen
12:41:02 PM
Is the GRE automatically waived?
Laura Strawbridge
12:41:06 PM
To clarify, can you apply to the BSN second degree program and then after you are in the program you can apply an msn speciality?
So the 1st question is, I took Chem, one into an undergrad is using Chem 2 is my great OK. Yes, that's fine. You can put Chem 2 on the actual application when it asks for your prerequisite courses for sure.
Rachana Krishnan
12:41:16 PM
If you have a pre-requisite grade that is a B- is it worth retaking the class?
Ashley Reed
12:41:19 PM
Is it ok to take a chemistry class with an organic component?
Amanda Goll
12:41:20 PM
what is you already have a graduate degree- can you still do the second bsn degree program without intent on going for another graduate program?
Amanda Goll
12:41:32 PM
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Ashley Reed
12:41:36 PM
Is housing available on campus for accelerated students?
Yes, the jury is automatically waived based on your GPA we do confirm it. So you'll see it as pending on your application. It will be pending on the actual application. But the good news is we confirm on your transcript that you have a 3.2 from your undergrad GPA when your degree was conferred or if you're currently in college, that your current GPA is A3 to or hire an we waive it for you in the system so to clarify can you apply to the second degree program?
Kimberly Pierre
12:41:45 PM
I am applying in the summer of 2020. Will the requirements change too much from what what discussed today?
Yvonne Reddick
12:41:54 PM
How many prerequisites should I have completed at the time of applying?
Morgan Tallo
12:42:03 PM
What GRE scores are a benchmark for admission?
Rachana Krishnan
12:42:06 PM
Is GPA re-calculated w/ classes from other schools or is only the undergrad GPA used ?
And then after you're in the program applied to an MSN specialty. Yes, exactly that's what we call our sub matriculation programme. It allows you to apply to the graduate program, while you're in the BSN. We streamline the application for you, we waive the application fee. You don't have to submit official transcripts because we have 'em from your first application. So yes, you would apply to the program.
If you have a prerequisite grade that is a B minus is it worth retaking the class.
Um that's a great question.
I wouldn't retake the class but there are a couple of things, I would look at so I would look at.
You know if it's chemistry biology, nutrition, stats do not retake that class at all. Now, if it's Anatomy Physiology, and you recently completed anatomy and Physiology.
Kimberly Pierre
12:43:02 PM
Can I do the midwifery APRN certification after doing the neonatal NP courses and earning the MSN?
Laura Ordonez
12:43:02 PM
Besides the required courses, are there any courses that are recommended?
And depending on where you completed it. We'd have to kind of have a discussion about it. If you took anatomy Physiology. Let's say like 5 years ago was a B minus I don't think it hurts to retake it to get a higher grade just 'cause anatomy, Physiology, so important. But it would have to just kind of see what class it was when you took it where you took it 1B minus is not going to prevent you from being accepted into the program. But you can email me if you like actually I put the screen up there's my email.
You can email me more details and then we can talk about it.
Is it OK to take a chemistry class with an organic component? Yes. That's fine. You just want to make sure that the title is just you know general chemistry that the title is not organic chem or bio. Chem that should be fine and we should be able to post it as transfer credit without any problems.
Rachana Krishnan
12:43:44 PM
What is the acceptance rate of submatriculating into the anesthesia program from the ABSN program?
Laura Strawbridge
12:44:00 PM
Do clinicals start the first semester?
What is you already have a graduate degree? Can you still do the second BSN degree program with an intent on going for a graduate program. Yes, definitely definitely so we have students who have Masters in public health or Masters in counseling. Those are the 2 big ones. But we also have micro biology and biology. We have students who are lawyers have a JD and are coming back to nursing and going into the field. An summer going to like a bioethics kind of field. Others are just completely leaving law behind and moving on to clinical practice.
Gillian Crysler
12:44:12 PM
My university granted me General Chemistry credit for my AP class so I only took Organic Chemistry and advanced inorganic chemistry in college. Do I need to go back a take a general chem class to complete the prereq?
So Uhm Whitehead suits with pH DS in English graduate degrees in public. You know human development. It just depends as long as you is perfectly fine and you can and then you can apply to the graduate program. Once you're here or you can apply currently to the BS and innocent.
Mica Zimmerman
12:44:22 PM
If I already know I want to pursue Nurse-Midwifery is there a benefit for applying to the BSN second degree versus the BSN/MSN program?
Alright next question is, is housing available on campus for accelerate students actually yes. Students can live on campus. We have graduate housing for our accelerated students. You can live in grad housing. I will say 95% of the students will live off campus in either West Philadelphia, which is the community West of campus or Center City, Philadelphia, which is kind of like the downtown Philly area. Both within walking distance biking bus depending on where you live and how far West in.
Riana Nicolaysen
12:44:56 PM
Are you able to provide a break down of tuition for the ABSN/MSN program?
Olivia May
12:45:06 PM
Does the BSN include a policy focus?
E you go I'd say, 3035 minute commute come to campus if you're walking so but you can live on campus and you can request graduate housing, so I'd say, maybe 3 to 5 students a year will live on campus.
So I'm applying in the summer of 2020 with the requirements changed too much from what we discussed today.
I don't think the requirements in terms of prerequisites are going to change the application should stay the same. We might tweak. The video interview. We might do something else with the interview. But in general, those requirements won't change now.
How many prereqs should I can have completed at time of applying great question so it depends as always so let's say you are a biology major and the only class you have completed or bio and Chem.
That's fine because your biology major which means you've taken a lot of science courses and we get to see a lot of those classes, so if you're currently in progress with anatomy and next semester. You're taking Physiology and Micro. It's not a huge deal.
Let's say you were a non science major, maybe you were human development or psych or you know theater art history. You would want to have more science courses completed to make your application a little bit more competitive. So what I would recommend is at least the first part of Anatomy and Physiology, so either amp one or human anatomy or human Physiology should be completed when you apply or at least by December of when you apply.
Kimberly Pierre
12:46:36 PM
I’ve heard that some people used Portage Learning to take online classes, is that acceptable or does it need to be from a university/community college in order to take the class?
Because you could submit your final fall grades to me.
And I can add it to your application after you submit your app so that at that point will know how you did, in that class, so I would say if you're a non science major you want to have at least 2 of the science courses completed prior to applying but specifically the anatomy, Physiology sequence at least part of it completed before applying if you're not a science major just to ensure that your applications competitive. There's exceptions across the board for everything but that's kind of like the big picture.
You know if we don't have a lot of science courses to evaluate you want. That quantitative side. It can be a little bit more difficult for us.
What Jerry scores are a benchmark for admissions so yeah, so the jerrys we don't put a lot of emphasis on the Jerry's I will say.
And 1:50 in the math and verbal section SO150 and 50th percentile annual be fine and the jerrys won't be an issue. If you are applying to our PhD program, though, to be more competitive. I would aim for the 60th percentile. In the math and verbal section, but again we don't put a lot of emphasis on the Jerry's the jerrys can help you if your scores are extremely high. They can hurt you slightly if they're extremely low.
Is GP re calculated with classes from other schools or is it? Only the undergraduate GPA so the GPA that we look at is all courses completed prior to your degree being convert so if you went to one institution for 4 full years didn't take summer courses anywhere didn't go to Community College for anything or anywhere else. That would be your GPA from that, for those 4 years. 'cause you finish your 4 years and you get your bachelors degree. Let's say you started off at a Community College to 2 years, then transferred to a 4 year school.
The two more years got em received your bachelors at that point we would combine those GPS to create your overall undergraduate GPA. We do not incorporate any courses that you completed after your degree was completed so for students have completed let's say you get your bachelors degree in 2018 and now you've done a year worth of Prereqs. We're not going to take those prereqs and incorporated into your GPA but I promise you we will look at them probably even more closely than some of the other classes because they're more recent.
Can I do it with free certification after doing a neonatal NP courses in earning the MSN so technically? Yes, you can you would do you finish the neonatal nurse practitioner certification become a necu nurse I mean, I make you a nurse practitioner for the Nick You and then you would do a post Masters.
Masters degree at that point you would then do what was required to be certified as a midwife. I will say there's not a huge overlap over the 2 there's some but there's not a lot, so chances are you're taking pretty much the midwifery program again. You know you won't have to take the grad research course. You won't have to do kinda think there's not much that really overlapped between the two you want us to do. The Advanced Physical Assessment course you probably won't have to do the pharmacology course.
The main courses, you won't have to do, but you'll have to do those core clinical courses again.
And one other thing the nurse midwifery program, which I forgot to mention includes the Women's Health. Nurse practitioner certification, so if you do midwifery at the end of the midwifery program. You can sit for both the advanced practice registered the.
The CRNP the certified registered nurse practitioner exam and the certified nurse midwifery exam. So you can be both a nurse practitioner and a midwife with their midwifery program.
Um beside the required courses are there any courses that are recommended no not really not really because you know everyone's coming with different backgrounds different interests different degrees. So I don't. I mean, I think if for students that are concerned about their science grades. Maybe you were science major in their lower. You may want to add an extra science class if you're if you've got the time and you can do it. Maybe you could take a Biochem class or an advanced pathophysiology or pathophysiology course.
But it's not required. It's not even recommended. It's only kind of a case by case basis. If you need to enhance your application for whatever reason.
What is the acceptance rate of some matriculate ING into the anesthesia program for the a BSN program Oh that's a great question so.
Riana Nicolaysen
12:51:32 PM
How is the job outlook after graduation?
The good news is last years cast of the classic just applied this spring. Everyone was admitted. I think we had 6.
I don't have that number. I'm not sure. I think it can change from year to year. Historically, there's always you know, let's say we have 6 applicants. Historically, 1 to 2 or not admitted this year. They were so we'll have to. I don't really have an exact number for that.
Um do clinical start the first semester, they don't start in the very first. They kinda do but they don't so the first summer session. You're going to be in the simulation lab going head to toe assessment. So you will be working on each other. Do intend to assessment, physical exams things like that, and there's an observation period where you're observing a graduate of our program in the area in a different field. But it's not that traditional clinical experience. So you start June if you won't do clinicals till the week of August, 20th that's when the hospital clinicals will start.
Yvonne Reddick
12:52:34 PM
How long are the study abroad programs for the accelerated nursing programs, and do people ever travel with their families for those?
Daniela Curi
12:52:57 PM
What is the acceptance rate into the Accelerated Direct Entry BSN-MSN program?
My University Granny Gen Chem credit for AP and I only took organic come in advance in organic chemistry in college do I need to go back and take a Gen Chem Class I don't think you do, if you got a 5 in your AP Chem weaken accepted for credit. But if you took an advanced inorganic chemistry course that's fine. We can use that one actually so it doesn't even matter what your AP grade is you can email me if you just want to double check the title of the classes. You make sure it would transfer but I don't think you would have to.
If I already know I want to pursue nurse midwifery's their benefit for applying to the second degree versus the BSN MSN program.
Rachana Krishnan
12:53:13 PM
is there a place on the application to explain why a certain semester GPA wasn't as high even if those courses did not really include pre-requisites?
Shanee Regev
12:53:24 PM
Is it acceptable for the statistics prerequisite to be completed in a social science department?
Olivia May
12:53:27 PM
Is it possible to defer admission by a year?
You know my recommendation is always if you are at least 80% sure of population or setting like I know I want to do oncology and I'm leaning towards adults or I know I wanted to pieds, but I want to do primary care. I always recommend applying BSN MSN. It's just nice to know you've been accepted to the program. You can really plan things out from the get go. I think it's worth applying BSN MSN. If you are at least 80% sure this special to you want to go into and that you're very knowledgeable of that specialty.
For nurse midwifery you also want to have a little bit of exposure. You know, maybe shadowed a midwife. Maybe volunteered to Planned Parenthood or wins health clinic understand a little bit about Paula sees how it affects reproductive rights and reproductive health.
There's other areas that you can go into you know being a counselor crisis counselor. There's so many different things that you can be involved in it doesn't just have to be very specific to birthday, so for midwifery. You would want to have a little bit of exposure. But if you're 80% sure of the population in the setting. I recommend applying BSN MSN if you're at the stage where you're just like.
I like everything I love the hospital, but I really love public health and I think I want to global health and I like kids and I like the elderly. That's kind of all over the place. I recommend second degree get in here and start to eliminate some of your options. You might not be able to pinpoint it but you can start to eliminate some of it and then apply later. But if you know you want midwifery. I'd say go for it because that pen.
If by chance midwifery doesn't accept you but the Admissions Committee believes you're really good fit for pennan for the nursing program. They will admit you second degree, so we can switch your application to 2nd degree.
Are you able to provide a breakdown intuition for abs MSN program? Yes. So when ease on our website under financial aid. I think you can click accelerated and gives you breakdown of the BSN and then you go to the graduate program and get the graduate so the accelerated portion of the program. The first 18 months of the program is roughly 125 thousand dollars for tuition, and fees. the Masters program. It depends on the specialty that you choose. But I believe a 12 month full-time MSN program. I want to say is like.
65,000 um 'cause it's usually about 10 classes or so.
Might be 70,000 but it's a little bit cheaper because you get to take some grad courses in your BSN that count towards your Masters so I'd say, 12 months would probably be about 65,000 for a graduate program and then it goes up you know the longer it is.
How does the DSM include apolosi focus? Yes, we have a health care policy course that's part of the curriculum so In addition to the clinical courses. There's 5 non clinical courses that you take health policies. One of them and we both variety of different options for health policy. You can actually do one through the Wharton School of Business. You can do a Women's Health policy course can do a general policy. Corsana graduate level policy course we might even have another one in another Department that you can take everyone else. Take bioethics if you haven't taken it health care ethics graduate research.
Ashtin Jacoby
12:56:34 PM
Will mammalian anatomy and physiology be accepted for the prerequisites?
There's a case study that you have to sign up for in the case study. You can choose your topics. So you're really passionate about oncology. You can do are in college. A case study of a birthing. One breast feeding aggressive behavior community. I think it's called community champions, but don't quote me on that one, but it's based on how do you implement community programs so it's kind of got that public health deal and there's other ones that I can't remember off the Top of my head right now and then there's a nursing elective so those 5 classes are non clinical courses and you take them throughout those 1st.
I've heard that some people use Portage learning take online courses is that acceptable. Yes, Portage learning is through Geneva College and Geneva. Colleges is in accredited college, slash University here at Penn.
So we do, we not here in general and we accept credits from Geneva College. So you can do Portage learning. We've had students take classes at University of New England, which is an online school I think University of Rochester might have some stuff but yeah, we will accept on line as long as it's from an accredited college or University.
How is the job outlook after graduation? Oh good question so I mean? It depends on the program but I will say for nurses.
It's good, I think for our graduates it's really about.
Robert Dimapilis
12:57:58 PM
What is the acceptance rate for the Streamlined Acute care Nurse Practitioner and how many credits are needed to complete the program?
Hin Hin Wong
12:58:00 PM
How is the job outlook after graduation for international students?
Deciding where they want to work and they might pick a field that's a little harder, so like will have students who want to move to New York City after they graduate and if you want to go into Neo Natal in New York City. I think it's a lot harder to get a new job in New York City. If you're interested in going into the ICU and critical care. It's a little bit more difficult. So you might not be able to go to the exact place. You want to be so for someone who needs the ICU because they're going to go to anesthesia or they want to do acute care whatever it is or they just love it.
It's hard to find a critical care program for new nurses everywhere. And when you do, find it. It's very competitive. So you might want to be here at Penn. But you really want the critical care program so you might not come to Penn Right. You might go across the River to Cooper or into Delaware because you were able to get into their critical care program so I mean, historically this is all anecdotal information from graduates that I speak with after they graduate, but most of them say within 3 to 6 months.
Like over 90% of them have a job, um if they're actively looking for a position they're working in the field.
Morgan Tallo
12:59:01 PM
Are overall GPA and pre-requisite GPA looked at separately? / Can higher pre-requisite GPA balance out a lower overall GPA for a science major?
How long is the study abroad programs for the accelerated program and do people ever travel with their families for those I don't know if people have a travel with family for those.
That I'm not sure 'cause I don't know what the living situation is when you go there. If you all live in like 1 place if you're sharing rooms that I'm not positive about the length of the study abroad programs. The Botswana trip is 4 weeks. That's the longest all the other ones are two week programs there two week trips and you go abroad during the break time. So it doesn't interfere with your plan of study doesn't prolong your plan here at Penn. You go abroad at the end of the spring, but you come back before your summer session classes start.
I mean, even the pen global programs. They have a variety of different options. But most of the students will do the two week or the four week options that fit into their schedule and every programs different some will fit some won't you just kind of have to work with them and see what's the best option.
Is there a place in the application to explain why a certain semester GPA wasn't as high even if those courses did not really include prerequisite courses. Oh definitely definitely there isn't a place on the application. We don't have like an addendum section. But if you want to address anything with your application. If you're concerned about a really low GPA something happened that semester and you want to share it and kind of just let us know. I would either include it with your personal statement. But make sure has a different header addendum.
At the Top and then tell us a little bit about it or you can upload it with your resume with the same thing.
Is it acceptable for the statistics prereqs to be completed in a social science Department? Yes, we will take all statistics course. We will take a business taxes social stats of bio stats.
That's just not stats, I don't even know we will take that it's perfectly fine as long as it's a statistics course and not a research methods course. Sometimes the title might say research methods and it's really statistics. We have to prove that. But in general. You just want to make sure it's a stats class. It's the how to versus applying statistics to research is it possible to just for admissions by year, yes, we do offer an admissions deferment of one year.
Kimberly Pierre
01:01:25 PM
Is introduction to biostatistics from an MPH course okay?
So let's say you're accepted come February 2020, except into our program. You realize May 2020 that you need that year off you send us an email when we move your admissions start date within the admissions process. We move your start date to twenty twenty one and you get one year extension only an we can extend it beyond that one year.
What is the acceptance rate for the streamlined acute care nurse practitioner and how many credits are needed to complete the program.
Oh are streamlined program is actually very high. I would say they look at your I think they look at your science grades and your BSN MSN degree. This is for someone who's already in our source streamlined program is for those who are already nurses.
And I wanna say they finish it in 2 semesters, but I'm not positive. I'm sorry. I don't have that information. I'm going to see if I can look it up real quick.
But you can also email me and I'll find out as well.
Ashtin Jacoby
01:02:40 PM
Will mammalian anatomy and physiology be accepted for the prerequisites?
Peter Clauter
01:02:47 PM
If you did OK on the GRE but you have an overall GPA high enough to waive the GRE, would you recommend not submitting your GRE score and just waiting it?
Here we go next question is how is it Joe? How is the job outlook after graduation for international students. That's a great question that I'm not sure of I know that you've got that you have the ability to work for that one year. I don't know what happens beyond that one year. I think students are pretty successful at finding a job for that year that you're eligible to work. I think it's after that that the problem can come in 'cause of the sponsorship and things like that. It's a great question feel free to email me that question.
I'll forward it to to our international uhm.
Office just in case they have information for me, but I don't know for sure.
Um our overall GPA in prerequisite you came looked at separately can a higher prereq GPA balance at a lower overall GPA for science major? Yes, definitely we do look at them separately we look at your undergraduate GPA but we look at your undergraduate.
Transcript right we're looking at were saying, You know, Hey, how is?
Olivia May
01:03:39 PM
You mentioned that the resume should be longer and more detailed than a one-page work resume - what's the maximum length that it can be?
You know how do they do in their undergrad they start off rocky and then by the end of the semester by the end of the four years. Everything was really great and doing well is it just certain classes. Sometimes it's a math thing, so some of the math classes, you know the kens and things are a little lower than your rest of your courses so we do a full evaluation of your undergraduate. We don't just look at your GPA so that's one thing and then we specifically look at your prereqs. And yes, we will make a note like GPA is a little lower, but pre recs. All completed within the last year.
You know average GPA of a 39. You know really doing well has a good science background. We look at everything in your application is not just one thing.
Ashley Reed
01:04:27 PM
What is the acceptance rate for the Accelerated BSN/MSN program?
Uhm Intuitive Intuitive Biostatistics from an MPH MPH course definitely will meet our statistics requirement for sure.
I will million anatomy, Physiology be accepted for the Prereqs That's a great question.
I think I need you to send me like the course description. And if you have the syllabus for that and I'll forward it on to see if we can accept it.
Um next question is if you did, OK, I'm a jury, but you have an overall GPA high enough to wait. The jury would you recommend not submitting your Jerry scores in just waiting?
I yeah, I mean, if you're not happy with your Jerry if you feel like it doesn't represent your academic ability. I wouldn't submit the jerrys because it's technically waived so I think it's fine to not include the cherries on the exam on the application. If you don't feel comfortable sharing them with us or you don't think you.
You're not happy with those scores. You don't have to share them with us if that makes sense.
Uh you mentioned at the resume should be longer more detailed than a one page resume. What's the maximum length that it can be. I mean, I say aim for 2 pages. But you can go up to 3 pages. If it's a resume resume. I know see. These can go little longer. I probably wouldn't go for pages. Though 'cause It's kind of nice to see like a nice concise.
Resume what that has everything on it, you know without having to go through many, many pages but it's up to you. I mean, if there's a lot, that you want to add and you need to make it for go for it.
But I would Pristiq with 2 to 3.
Alright next question what is the acceptance rate for the BSN MSN programs so we we don't we don't pull out the acceptance rates.
Kimberly Pierre
01:06:29 PM
For the women’s health or midwifery program did you say that we need 1 year of experience before starting the MSN?
By program it's just kind of accelerated program is that 27 to 30% acceptance. We get a little bit over 600 applications. We admit about 27 to 30% of the pool and we matriculate about 85 to 90 students and it usually works out that your it's like a 5050% of our pool. Our second degree. Students and 50% RBSNMSN plus helmet so we kind of still turns out to be about that.
30. You know 27 to 30% acceptance rate for both.
For the Women's Health or midwifery program. Did you say that we need one year of experience we start before starting the MSN? No, technically the nurse midwifery program an Women's Health does not require RN experience now that's also the same for our site program. Our family Pete's primary in adult and gentle primary, but I will say based on how you do at Penn. They may recommend that you work, which has happened. You know if your clinical if you struggled clinically or if your clinical.
If your grades overall are in a strong they might say like take a year go out and work for a year and then come back. But in general. If you're admitted BSN MSN for nurse filled with free you can technically begin right after your VSR.
Love it when you first sent send questions any other questions about anything. Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention which hopefully you're going to be in our system now so you're going to get emails from us, but we are going to be across some of the major US cities.
Starting next week, so next Wednesday. We're going to be in New York and DC were doing info sessions with Hopkins and Yale.
We're going to be in Baltimore at 10:30 in the morning and then we're going to be in DC at 6:00 o'clock at night.
That same day and then we have our.
New York event on the 12th we're doing a ****** session in New York City near the Lincoln center, then we're also going to be the following week. We're going to be in Boston up BU and Yale and I think we have an event scheduled at Harvard as well. So we're working on those details were going to be in California and 1st week of October, going to be in North Carolina at the end of September and we're going to be in the Chicago Nashville area. Mid October so definitely check out those events were going to have a couple events in Philly. We're going to have a PhD information session on the 27th.
Of September, so if you're thinking about the PhD. I think it's a great opportunity to come. You share the faculty. You meet some of the PhD students and you get a good sense of what life would be like for a PhD. We're going to have an information session for our accelerated program an it will be joined with pen in Hopkins. So Johns Hopkins will be here to do that presentation and then we also have a couple of or graduate open house on Saturday, October 5th.
So that's a great event if you're thinking of you know, maybe you're still trying to decide your graduate specialty or you want to learn a little bit more better grad specialties to great opportunity. If you can make it to Philly. Those are great and then we have. We have them all listed on the website so you can see in register for them.
Peter Clauter
01:09:40 PM
What are your tips for the best videos you've seen before on the video interview section?
Any other questions for me.
Oh, Oh what are your tips for the best videos you've seen before on the video interview section.
That's a good question so the one in simple tip, is just too.
Olivia May
01:10:01 PM
For a BSN/MSN program, is it two separate applications or am I able to just indicate my MSN interest on the BSN application page?
I know sounds weird, but just make sure the lighting looks good and that the recording looks solid because sometimes the recordings are really are systems that great, but like you want to make sure that it's good lighting. So just be kind of cognizant of where you are that you may be a clean wall in the back so that we're not distracted by stuff in the back and then it's kind of a little bit bright in the room that I think is nice just to get to see the Applicat. The other thing is really just a really just have I know it's hard, with a video in every because you're staring at yourself and?
I feel weird even just doing this webinar 'cause. I feel like I'm just talking to myself, but you know really just have a conversation really just tell us about your passion for nursing. What brought you to nursing. You know like I mentioned before sometimes it doesn't come across in the personal statement. Sometimes the personal statement is very generic right. I'm going to help people I've always wanted to do health care. You know the video interview can allow you an opportunity to make it may be a little bit more personal.
I'm really talk about how what brought you to this road to this intersection and why this is a good fit for you and really concentrate. You know, I know it's hard to talk positively sometimes about ourselves, but definitely tell us you know.
Morgan Tallo
01:11:25 PM
Is there a time limit on the video interview and are multiple takes allowed?
What you hope to accomplish even if they're really big goals we want to hear them and then the other thing is to do a little research on pen. I think it can come across you think about organizations. You might want to be involved in think about the faculty. You might want to work with or feel the study. You want to research or a hospital. You're really excited to work in and talk about those aspects and really 'cause I think the thing that we're looking for an admissions process is not just Hey can this student academically do well in this program and do they really want to be a nurse, it's also like?
Daniela Curi
01:12:01 PM
In the video, is it okay to repeat some parts our personal statement then, and it won't be looked down on?
Can they join our community and add to the community and are they going to be excited to be here and get involved, and be helpful and cooperative. You know all of those things and I think the more you know about the school in the University. I think and come across so I would definitely do a little bit of research on Penn in terms of your interest right matching your interest with what pens doing not just not necessarily just telling us what's on the website. But like I'm really passionate about addiction and working in the within the Herring.
Epidemic and I see myself doing XY and Z and so and so is doing. This research and there's a great needle exchange program here in Kensington in Philadelphia that I could volunteer at you know, kind of thinking big picture. I think that's always helpful and it adds a lot to the application. But definitely why nursing and show that you understand the role for those of you applying direct entropy. SMS and the faculty will see your interview. You definitely want to concentrate on the specialty like nurse practitioner in Pete's primary.
This is their role this is what they do, and This is why it's a good fit for me and this is what I'm excited about you have to make sure you understand the role of the nurse practitioner and the specialty are going into or the nurse midwifery roll. 'cause I think that's important within midwifery. I would probably even just concentrate on just your exposure to midwifery your interest in Women's Health. If you're really thinking of going in the policy side you want to talk about that. There's a faculty want to work with you want to talk about that. So you also want to make it a little bit themed if you know are applying to that specialty.
Great question by the way is it in the video is it OK to repeat some parts in the personal statement. Yes, of course, and we know I mean, your reason to go into nursing as your reason. It's not going to change 'cause you're telling to us in the video so we completely understand that and I think that video can also be where you can add a little bit more of like some of your kind of.
Hin Hin Wong
01:13:48 PM
Is there financial aid for international students?
Laura Strawbridge
01:13:58 PM
If you don't have a lot of exposure and experience other than volunteering would you say it's harder to be admitted to the BSN/MSN program?
Characteristics you know your leadership skills things like that, if you don't put them in your personal statement or if you don't elaborate. Them elaborate on those skills in your personal statement. You can talk about them. In the video and then of course, you can kind of elaborate on just you know being a student at Penn living in Philly, opportunities in Philly, that can add a little bit to it as well.
The next question is if you don't have a lot of owning a skip ones. Are is there financial aid for international students. Yes, we do offer financial aid. We do offer grant funds.
Hollyann Gremmel
01:14:35 PM
I am in the process of completing the prerequisites for the accelerated BSN Second Degree program. However, I will not have these completed by the next entry date, June 2020. So, what is the next start-date after June 2020?
For our students for anyone who's applying it's need based so the grants are need based. We also have a scholarship that is offered to students based on the application, which is not me. Based and then we also of course. There's then there's the federal alternative loans. The federal loans and they alternative loans that you would have to apply for as well.
But we definitely do financial aid. We also accept any and all outside scholarships. If you don't have a lot of exposure and experience other than volunteering would you say it's harder to be admitted to the BSN MSN program?
Morgan Tallo
01:14:59 PM
Are life experiences, such as EMT where you are the primary patient care provider, looked at favorably on an application?
It depends it really depends I think it really depends on the student. I'm sorry, the applicant and really what brought them to that specialty you know sometimes.
The exposure is you know if you have an interest in adult in Gerontology, it might be, because you saw your family be caregivers. To you're a grandparent who had dementia or Alzheimer's or something along those lines and those experiences. Maybe on paper don't feel like you have exposure, but you do so it's really up to the student account.
Express' that and show that you know nurse midwifery. I think is the nurse midwifery slash Women's Health. I think is the program that requires the most exposure to the field and the most knowledge of the role. They just can't go in there be like, I love babies and I want to deliver babies doesn't matter go work in labor and delivery and you can hang out with babies all day. It's really going to be like why midwifery? What's the reason for it? What do you hope to do with it.
Shanee Regev
01:16:04 PM
Since there are several questions to answer for the video interview, do we give one answer per question or do we respond to all the questions in a more fluid fashion, similar to the personal statement?
I think also within Pediatrics really understanding kind of if you're applying to any of the specialty programs like oncology critical care chronic care. Understanding those roles are think is really important to doing research on your own so exposure doesn't necessarily mean that you're not competitive because you could have exposure that you just have to explain a little better because it's not you're not a clinical researcher in the oncology Department at ShopRite. You are doing 1 on one care with a family member or you're working at a non for profit.
You know, we're raising awareness on a specific um disease or condition or something like that. So it's really up to the applicant to kind of put those pieces together so it doesn't necessarily mean you're not competitive and won't be accepted.
Um, I'm in the process of completing the prerequisites for the BSN, however you want. I won't have them all completed till June 2020.
OK, so that's hard, so it depends in June if you can complete those courses.
Bye Julie if you can start in 2020, the next start date is we start in June every year. We currently only offer one start date, which is June of 2020. So it's 18 months, so the next start date would be June 2021, So what I would do is I would see what's left. Let's say you just have nutrition left to complete you could do that, on line, where it's maybe you start, it end of April and ends early June and then you can still start the program in June.
You could always email me if there's more specifics to the what classes you're completing in June.
Our life experience such as EMT, where you are the primary patient care provider looked at favorably on the application. Definitely definitely we have seen. Tori MTCN AZE. We have students who are patient transporters at the hospital. Sometimes they're just helpers. A lot of students who are interested in Pediatrics, volunteer their time and they just pretty much run.
Meet with meet with the patients and just kind of play with them and talk to them and kind of get them involved. So it doesn't always have to be very specific, but EMT experience is wonderful. So you definitely want to highlight that and talk about those experiences as well.
Don't there several questions to answer for the video.
Olivia May
01:18:30 PM
For a BSN/MSN program, is it two separate applications or am I able to just indicate my MSN interest on the BSN application page?
Interview do we give one answer per question or do we respond to all the questions in a more fluid fashion. Similar to the personal statement that's a great question. It's completely up to you. It's everyone's doing it differently summer reading the question an responding to it. Others are kind of combining 2 or 3 of the questions and then responding to that and then kind of clumping them together. You know like why nursing my goals and then maybe doing? Why pen what you're interested in accomplishing while you're here.
And then maybe ending with some of the leadership stuff, so everyone's doing it differently. Whatever works best for you. There's really no right or wrong, whichever one you think you'll.
Be the most comfortable and shine the best in is the one I would do.
So we had for the BSN MSN program is it 2 separate applications or able to just indicate my Ms interest on the BSN. Yes, it's one application. So when you go in and start your app. You're going to choose accelerated nursing program. Once you choose accelerated nursing then well. I don't think you have choose accelerated. You'll see the listing of the programs. There's BS and 2nd degree. There's BSN MSN and then there's the SNP HD. And when you click on it when you click. BSN MSN it'll pop up and you pick the MSN specialty.
Once you've chosen that option so there's no you don't have to do 2 applications. The same thing for the Helman PhD program as well.
OK, any other questions for me.
Any other I'm gonna see if I can find.
The question about the streamline.
Amanda Goll
01:20:21 PM
many thanks for doing this and taking the time to answer questions!
Kimberly Pierre
01:20:41 PM
Thank you so much!
Yvonne Reddick
01:20:42 PM
Thank you! This has been very informative!
Oh my pleasure, you have you guys had really awesome questions today and this is great because I know it's hard to get a lot of the information that you were looking for online. So then we also have I'm going to put it in here?
Hin Hin Wong
01:20:49 PM
Thank you very much!
Filomena Circelli
01:20:49 PM
admissions@nursing.upenn.edu
Shanee Regev
01:20:57 PM
Sorry - one more --- does Penn help set up preceptors during the MSN specialty?
Just because I'll be traveling uhm starting next week, so you can also email admissions at nursing.upenn.edu. There are great resources well so you can see both of us and then one of us will get on the email with you, but
You know, please definitely email us with questions concerns anything that.
Morgan Tallo
01:21:11 PM
Thank you so much!
You know you're thinking of We look forward to working with you through the admissions process. We definitely know we're definitely excited about.
Working with you as we go through the process meeting you on the road, hopefully in many of you can come visit us here campus go from there.
Shanee Regev
01:21:33 PM
thank you!
Uh one more question does penhook setup preceptors during the BSN. Yes, we find all your preceptors in clinical sites. You do not find any of them for any of our graduate or accelerated programs. You we will find your clinical instructor. We will find your preceptor. We oversee them. We make sure that it's what we're looking for so yes, we will find all of the clinical sites, which is a huge piece of the program for sure.
Hin Hin Wong
01:22:11 PM
Did you say that after we submit our application in 15 Oct, we can finish more pre req until december?
Olivia May
01:22:22 PM
thank you! this has been really helpful
An yeah, I'm sorry. I can't seem to find much streamlined question in terms of how many courses. There are and I will say the courses may change based on what your Masters degree is in to just send me an email and I'll forward it to my colleagues will have a little bit more.
Yeah, so one of the questions is after you could.
It says Gee that when you submit your application in October 25th after October 2015. You can still finish the pre recs. In December, you can actually finish any and all prerequisites up to may 31st 2020. So you can take classes in the spring as well. I mean, if for some reason the semester to school. You're at ends classes. June 8th or do I mean June 5th. That's fine, too. You have to make sure they're done and completed by June 8 that you're ready and you can move to Philadelphia and get set up and schedule. You don't wanna be rushing. You can't be arriving like the day before.
Move in your into your apartment 'cause everything goes so fast like you have to be like just ready to go. We do 2 days of orientation and then after that, things just start and they go fast. So you have to be here moved in and all that stuff, but all everyone can take prerequisite courses up until may 31st 2020 and still be eligible to start the program in June 2020 and in the application. You let us know that's what your plan is.
Filomena Circelli
01:23:33 PM
Thank you!!
Thank you again for joining us in about 3 days so today is I think it'll come out on Monday. The recording will automatically get emailed out to you guys and you'll have it and you can refer back to it.
Alright everyone have a great day, um in since it's Thursday. I'm going to enjoy the weekend. That's coming up and hopefully we won't get all that rain for those of us on the Northeast.
But it just goes out back into the ocean an we have a beautiful September weekend. But in the mean time. Keep in touch email us with questions and we look forward to seeing you soon take care.