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Great welcome everyone. My name is Jamie Bergstein, IDL and I'm the Associate Director of graduate admissions and marketing here at Penn Nursing.
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Here's what we'll be talking about today.
We'll discuss our graduate program options, our MSN programs in our DMP in nurse anesthesia.
We'll talk about the application requirements and some tips for you as you finalize your application.
We'll briefly touch on financial aid information, and then we'll take your questions and the answers.
These are the MSN programs that we offer. We have a variety of advanced practice programs that span the life.
Life span and we also have two administrative non clinical programs that focus on health, leadership and Healthcare Administration.
A lot of times I get asked what program is right for me when you're thinking about becoming a nurse practitioner or advanced practice nurse.
We operate by the consensus model which was created a little over 10 years ago which aimed to streamline all the programs and focus of care. So the focus of care is based on the patient needs, not the clinical setting. So that means if you want to become a pediatric primary care nurse practitioner, you can only work with the pediatric population.
And you could only work in a primary care setting.
That doesn't mean you can't work in a hospital, or that you're only restricted to doctors office. That just means you can only operate in a primary care setting with the pediatric population. There's some more information about the consensus model linked here, but this is just a very brief overview. Hopefully for those of you that have not yet decided on a program yet.
This helps you frame your interest a little bit.
This is a very basic outline of what our clinical MSN programs look like. So what the nurse practitioner programs look like. All of our programs start out with the core curriculum or the three peas where you take your advanced pathophysiology, pharmacology, and physical assessment courses. All programs take these were also required to take a research course.
Then you have your theory or didactic courses. Those are your classroom courses and then you have your clinical placements, the School of Nursing organizes your clinical placements for you, which is a huge advantage. We guarantee a clinical placement ipon admission so you don't have to find your clinicals for the program.
Clinicals can take place in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware, so you will need to have your Pennsylvania license by the time you enroll in the program, and you may need your New Jersey and Delaware license once you start clinicals
for our administrative programs, I want to show the difference between the two. The health leadership program is a little bit more flexibel. You're only required to take five courses and then the rest are electives of your choosing.
The nursing and Healthcare administration program is a little more strict with their curriculum. You have a little less flexibility, and there's also a practicum involved.
We have a variety of minors that you can choose from. Most miners are only three courses. With that said, most people who do a minor tend to do it if they're doing our MSN programs part time since the full time programs are very busy, it's often hard to fit a minor in there since a lot of programs don't have many elective spots, so most people who do the minor are doing their MSN program part time.
Most of these don't lead to any clinical or certification. Most of these are just for you to increase your knowledge in this specific area. There again, there's more information online about which leads to certification and again which are just available to increase your knowledge in that area.
Our MSN programs can be done full time and part time.
Any program can be done full time or part time for the MSN part time you can start at any semester. You can start in spring which is mid January summer which is late may or fall which is late August early September.
If you're interested in doing the MSN program full-time, certain programs start in either of the summer or fall, so just pay attention to which program you're applying to, because it's not automatically just one term. It depends if on the program.
Our acute care programs require RN work experience and those are listed on the screen for the most part, you need one year of full-time experience in that area. The only difference is the neonatal program requires at least two years of RN experience in a Level 3 NICU or higher. All work experience should be calculated after orientation or any probationary period.
Although our primary care program, so that's any program not listed on the screen, they don't require work experience. However, work experience is strongly recommended for all programs. We strongly recommend at least one year of work experience. It are most competitive applicants typically have at least one here. It really makes a difference in your ability to succeed in the program.
In your ability to understand the requirements and expectations of becoming a nurse practitioner or advanced practice nurse and it makes you more competitive. Applicant for primary care programs. Your work experience doesn't have to come from that population area or acuity level. Any work experience is valuable for our primary care programs.
The next program will talk about is our DMP and nurse anesthesia. This program is only offered full time and it is 3 years long. You can enter with a BSN. You don't need to have an advanced degree.
And we're currently admitting about a year and a half in advance. So applicants applying this year are applying for summer 2020. Two 2021 is full. You cannot apply to that or get on the wait list or anything like that. You're applying for 2020.
There is a strict work experience requirement. You need to have at least two years post orientation in ICU or critical care. Working with the most critically ill patients by matriculation. However, our most competitive applicants have at least two years or more of work experience by time of application. Again, work experience is a huge factor. Here are most competitive applicants typically exceed two years of work experience.
There are several areas we do not consider, so the neonatal ICU emergency room recovery room and he stepped down units and Interventional radiology are not accepted.
The nurse anesthesia curriculum is fully integrated between your didactic classes, your clinicals, and simulations. So some programs you'll just spend the first year year and a half in the in the classroom, and then your last year will be in Clinicals. We immerse the entire curriculum so you start clinicals pretty shortly after you start the program.
And there is also the DMP component. This is a doctoral program, so you take several classes that help to fulfill the DMP project that you'll complete towards the end of your program. Most of our anesthesia students do the DMP project in groups of two or three so that is an option.
The anesthesia clinicals operate on a primary site model so you have a home base that you return to when you're rotating throughout your specialty rotations. This is a great opportunity to again build a home base that will relationships. Take the skills that you've learned in your different specialty rotations, and apply them back to your primary site.
Here is an overview of our application requirements for the MSN and nurse anesthesia DMP programs. I will go over this in detail, but I wanted you to see it all on the screen before we start talking about it.
And before we start talking about admissions and application tips, I want to talk about the Penn Advantage. Or really why you should apply to Penn Nursing. First, as I mentioned, we organize your clinical placements for you. This is a huge advantage. This is a huge weight off your shoulders. I know some students who attend other schools have to spend sometimes 20 to 30 hours trying to find a clinical spot for you. You may have to travel there or not.
All in Philadelphia, and for those of you who are not familiar with this area, New Jersey and Delaware are very close to Philadelphia, only about 30 minutes away by car. So again, you do have to travel, but sometimes not very far.
Our clinicals also focus on the medically underserved. An I'll go into our next bullet point, which is community focus. So again, our clinicals. We really try and put you out into the community, making sure that you are taking care of the Philadelphia and greater Philadelphia area. Since we are in located in Philadelphia and we want to make sure that we're giving back to the community.
There are also a lot of community events you can get involved in. For example, every year Penn Nursing has organized Philadelphia Women's Day, where students and staff and faculty organized workshops an provide health care to women in the Philadelphia area, and we actually survey people who attend an ask what they want to know and what they want to gain. So we really focus on the community.
And not, you know, not just come in and say this is what we're doing. We want to learn from them. What would be most helpful to them in their community?
There are national and international opportunities for our students. Unfortunately, right now no one is traveling, but hopefully soon enough we can resume all of these opportunities. So sometimes students might be able to complete their last clinical at a hospital outside of the Tri State area. Students have gone to California and Utah an all up and down every coast.
There are also international opportunities so students have the opportunity to do short-term international programs during spring break or during winter break, or again, do their last clinical abroad students have gone to Ghana, Guatemala, Trinidad and Tobago, Thailand really all over on their wonderful experiences, especially for those interested in global health.
And hopefully those can resume very soon.
We have a lot of research opportunities. As I mentioned, every MSN Sandy NP student has to take of research course. At the end you are encouraged to submit what you've completed as a manuscript and potentially have it published. Our students take that research into their professional careers and attend conferences and presentations. Even a students they attend.
Presentations and conferences. An will present on the research that they've done.
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12:20:23 PM
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And Lastly, we are not just training you to be advanced practice nurses. We're also training you to be leaders in our community and in your community as well. So we hope that you take what you've learned here and apply it to wherever you go after graduation. We encourage our students and alumni to be involved in policy, an advocacy. So, for example, every year our students will go to the state Capitol in Harrisburg.
And lobby and Titian for any sort of bills or laws that might be on the table for nurses and healthcare and patients, or or just to show show support for what's going on in our communities.
OK, let's get to some application tips and admissions tips.
My biggest piece of advice is to start your application early. The application is open now and starting early allows you to submit the most competitive application possible. It's much easier to fix errors if you have gone through the application and you give yourself plenty of time. Every deadline we have people working at the very last moment, an inevitably there are issues and unfortunately we can extend the deadline, so make sure you give yourself plenty of time.
Even if you don't plan on submitting right away, just open up the application and see what questions are being asked. See what's required of you so you have plenty of time to get through it and submit a competitive application.
We require a resume or CV. We don't have a preference. There's no length preference either. Most people submit between a one and two page resume. This is a non exhaustive list of what you can put on your resume. None of these are absolutely required, but this is what most people put on their resume, so all professional experience and if nursing. What is your second career and you have any?
Extensive experience, relevant experience that you'd like to share. You can put it on your resume.
Any volunteer experience, extracurricular activities, honors, and awards?
Leadership experience, any research experience? If you've been a clinical instructor or preceptor, any significant hobbies as well? You can feel free to include that on your resume.
Each program requires at least two essays, so forth will talk about the basics you want to make sure it's easy to read. We read many applications a day and it's a little tough on our eyes, so just making it easy to read can certainly go along way to make sure it's double space at 12 point font. Big enough for hard, tired eyes.
Proofread, proofread, and just to emphasize, proofread again, one or two errors. Grammatical errors. Spelling mistakes won't make a big difference, but if your essays are riddled with spelling errors and grammatical errors, and it's overall hard to read, that's going to make a big difference. An unfortunately could make her break your application decision, so make sure you proofread.
It's perfectly fine to have a friend or family member look it over. It gives some suggestions, but make sure after you do that, you remove any track changes because that will upload into the application. And Lastly, you want to preview once uploaded. Again, you want to make sure track changes are removed. Everything looks good to go. It's easy to read whatever you see uploaded into the application is what we also see. So you want to make sure that you can read it an it looks good to you.
In terms of content, we are looking for the why. There are many different nursing programs. Why this program? Why Penn? What specifically interests you and becoming a PRN, uh, nurse midwife and nurse nestedness? Why are you interested in this population in acuity level? We don't need to know your exact career goals. We don't expect you to know your exact career goals, but what are they generally?
What do you hope to achieve with this program and how will this program help you achieve your goals?
Roshin Kooplicat
12:25:23 PM
hello from Atlanta, GA
We require 3 letters of recommendation. You can submit up to five. You don't get any points for submitting more than three. You don't get less points for only submitting three. This is just a nice option for you in case you're deciding between some recommenders, you don't have to.
We like to see one academic reference. We understand the farther away you are from any program you might not have a strong academic reference. That's OK if you've done any significant research projects, UI projects, anything that relates to academic.
We we can take a reference from that person. We like to see a recommendation from your current employer or supervisor, whoever that may be, and then an additional professional reference of previous supervisor. Someone else who can comment in a different capacity.
Julbyen Gbukde
12:26:30 PM
Hi, from Julbyen. Nigeria
So overall, for recommendations were looking for quality, not name recognition or Penn Alumni, it's great. If you know the Dean or CNO or CEO, but if they don't know you that well, they can't write a quality recommendation. We would rather see someone we've never seen before, but who's your current supervisor or professor and can write a really strong recommendation.
It shouldn't just be a recap of your resume, we know what your resume is because we've already read it. We want them to focus on specific areas and talk about the qualities that would make you an excellent advanced practice nurse.
Your recommendations can emphasize strengths and weaker parts of your application, so if you're concerned about academics or experience, this is a great way to boost your application.
If you are reapplying, we strongly recommend getting updated or new recommendations. We understand maybe an old academic reference might change might not change. Excuse me, professional recommendations do change an if you were not admitted and you're applying again, you shouldn't be reusing your recommendations. You should be getting new ones.
And then Lastly, we only accept academic or professional recommendations. Don't submit personal recommendations. We understand your parents and grandparents might write wonderful recommendations, but that's not appropriate. We understand your parents or friends might know someone who works at Penn or is a nurse practitioner and they just know you in a personal capacity. Again, that's fantastic, but we.
We're really looking for academic or professional recommendations here, though the personal ones only hurt your application.
OK, on to standardized tests. We do require the jirari, but it will be waived if your BSN GPA from an accredited institution in the US or Canada is a cumulative GPA 3.2 or higher on a 4.0 scale.
Or you have a Masters degree from an accredited institution in the United States or Canada with a cumulative GPA of 3.0 or higher on a 4.0 scale.
Jenna Hayes
12:28:54 PM
Hello, from Philadelphia!
Anthony Alvarez
12:28:55 PM
What will the schedule for a full-time DNP-NA student look like? Can I work at the same time?
We don't recalculate GPA's. We don't round up or consider additional coursework. A 3.199 is not a 3.2.
So we don't excuse me, so whatever is on the application or on your transcript is what we take. So whatever it says to execute with GPA is what we consider.
The waiver will be applied after you submit your application and it's processed by our office. There's nothing you need to do unless you're missing information like your transcript.
And if you do need to take the jirari, competitive applicants typically score in the 50th percentile on both the verbal and quantitative sections, and a floor on the analytical writing section.
The to full or eilts is required if you are a non native English speaker or if your undergraduate degree was not conducted in English.
That awful and ilt requirements are on the screen. These are the minimums we won't consider anything under the minimum we accept either the Toefl or Ielts. We do not have a preference, but if you have to take one of these, you do have to submit one or the other.
For transcripts, we require transcripts from your BSN program and all additional degrees or coursework completed.
Ash Alaufi
12:30:39 PM
as international sutent what are the addmission requirments
We strongly, strongly encourage you to submit unofficial transcripts during the application process. The are accepted. We will take them. Official transcripts are only required if you are admitted, so save some money in time and just submit your unofficial transcripts.
For international transcripts. So if you went to school outside of the United States, they must be evaluated through Wes or CGFNS.
Other application items. We do require your RN or a PRN license.
You should upload whatever you're issued a scan of. Your physical copy is screenshot of the online certificate. It doesn't matter what you are issued on, you just need to upload whatever you're given.
Again, you will need a Pennsylvania license before you start the clinical sequence an if you are an international applicant and don't have a Pennsylvania license, but your license to practice in another country, you must complete the CGFNS certification program, which states that your license is equivalent to a United States license.
We do require an introductory statistics class at the undergraduate level that just needs to show up on your transcript. There's nothing additional you need to do.
And then we do have an interview process that's by invitation only and we will contact you about the interview. If you are invited.
Now we'll briefly discuss some tuition and financial aid information.
I'm just going to talk about tuition and financially briefly, I'm not a financial aid counselor. We have fantastic financial aid counselors available and the email is on the screen. I'm just going to go over some basic information for you to consider.
At the very basic level, your program costs depends on how many course units you take per semester. The average course at Penn is worth 1C U, and it's equal to four semester hours. There is no difference for costs between in state out of state full time part time, the course the cost is based on course units.
So this are these are the 2020-2021 tuition, fees, summer course unit rate is slightly less than the fall and spring course unit rate. The full time estimate includes personal and living expenses. The entire breakdown is available on the tuition and fees website, so some of these personal and living expenses might not apply to you, so I encourage you to take a look and see what all of that entails.
There are a few School of Nursing scholarships available for full time students. We do offer need and merit based awards. We are part of the post 911 yellow ribbon benefits for our veterans. If you are a returned peace core volunteer, there is a scholarship as well as if you are a Penn Medicine employee or chop employee and that's any Penn Medicine Hospital and any chop hospital.
After completing three course units at Penn in the calendar year, head medicine shop employees can receive a scholarship for the cost of tuition for the 4th course unit. If you take in the same calendar year. So it's basically buy three, get one free course units in the in the calendar year. So that's January to December.
Now we understand many of you might need to take out loans.
Charmaine Lim
12:34:43 PM
Yes
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:34:43 PM
Yes
And I'm sorry this isn't. Can everyone see my screen for educational loan options?
Caitlin Lim
12:34:45 PM
yes
Mirriam Lee
12:34:47 PM
yes
Blair March
12:34:47 PM
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Devonne Slade
12:34:48 PM
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Andrea London
12:34:48 PM
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Noelle Bolingbroke
12:34:48 PM
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Anthony Alvarez
12:34:49 PM
yes
OK great, it's taking a little while for me to load, so there are a variety of loans available. Some of you might need to take out loans.
It really varies by person.
Grad plus loans might be the best option for you. Private loans might be the best option for you. It really depends on your personal situation, so I encourage you to research them and determine you know based on your salary and based on your savings based on your personal experiences right now. To determine the best option for you.
There are several federal loan repayment plans. If you do have to take out a federal loan, there's public service loan forgiveness, which you've might, which you may have heard about before, and there's also specific loan forgiveness programs for nursing and the health service core where you agree to work in a certain area for a number of years and then your remaining loans will be forgiven. Again, this is very personal. This is not for everyone, and it really depends on your.
Personal experiences and your career objectives and other things. So I encourage you to just research these options before you.
Apply to any of them and research all of them too, because they have many benefits and you'll see which one might work for you.
Now here are the upcoming deadlines. Our part time spring deadline has passed. That was the 15th. I am leaving this up here because our deadlines typically don't change from year to year. So if you're interested in enrolling part time for next year, the deadline will most likely be around October 15th.
If you're interested and applying for full time for MSN programs, that deadline is November 2nd.
If you're interested in applying for part time, summer or fall, you have until March 15th of next year to apply.
And if you're interested in our nurse anesthesia DMP program, that deadline is November 2nd. And again a reminder we're admitting for 2022.
In the right hand column is the latest notification date you'll hear by. So while we have one deadline for the enrollment term, we have a rolling process for decisions.
So for our full-time applicants, summer will hear back by mid February. Fall will hear back by mid April.
For part time, summer and fall you'll you'll hear back between late April in mid May.
And for nurse anesthesia, we do release all of our decisions at once and you'll hear back in late April.
Jalita King
12:37:54 PM
Does LTAC (Long Term Acute Care) count as critical care work experience? (for DNP program)
So now I will take your questions and if you want to type them in the chat box will give you all a minute. I'll take a sub water an I can start answering them.
Emma Yu
12:38:24 PM
Are there applicants that apply to several different MSN programs at the same time?
Charmaine Lim
12:38:28 PM
Do most full-time MSN students work concurrently?
OK, does long term acute care count as critical care work experience for the DMP program?
Caitlin Lim
12:38:34 PM
Are there any clinical placements in New York?
Claire Templeman
12:38:38 PM
Can you explain how the oncology acute pediatric NP program differs from the acute pediatric NP program?
It depends why don't you email an missions at nursing.upenn.edu and explain your experience a little more and we can look into that.
Elie Kadosh
12:38:45 PM
When can we expect to hear about interviews or acceptance to the program?
Caitlin Lim
12:38:48 PM
Are most classes taking place in person or are they onlnine?
Are there applicants that apply to several different MSN programs at the same time? No, you could only apply to one MSN program at a time.
Anthony Alvarez
12:39:06 PM
What will the schedule for a full-time DNP-NA look like? can I work full-time or part-time as a student?
Jalita King
12:39:06 PM
my statistics class is over ten years old. does this matter?
Marianne Alapatt
12:39:07 PM
For DNP: are the interviews scheduled on a rolling basis? or at the end in April 2021?
Innocent Onwubiko
12:39:12 PM
Can you go to the DNP program directly without MSN if you have masters in healthcare org
Anaelle Thommasson
12:39:14 PM
Thank you for a great presentation! Can the MSN programs be completed remotely outside of clinical hours?
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:39:17 PM
I am currently retaking some courses. Do you weigh heavily on GPA or do you look at applicants holistically for the Anesthesia program? How do you view "in progress" courses?
Chinenye Ugonabo
12:39:28 PM
I see you can submit your application before the letter of recommendations are submitted. Are recommenders able to submit their letters past the application deadline?
Do most full-time MSN students work concurrently full-time? Unfortunately, really does not allow you to work while you're in the didactic portion of the MSN programs. You might be able to work very part time, or do a per diem shift, but once you get into Clinicals, it's very difficult to maintain any sort of employment.
Tori Palmer
12:39:38 PM
If your BSN is a second degree, can your GRE requirement be waived for the MSN program?
Sydney Koestoyo
12:39:39 PM
Is the BSN GPA consisting of only the upper-level nursing courses or all courses that I have taken?
Andrea London
12:39:41 PM
How Diverse is the student/faculty body for the DNP (Anesthesia)?
I'm for a nursing anesthesia program. We do not recommend working at all. It's a very intensive program and there's very little time even for per diem.
Larry Sears
12:39:46 PM
If you have >3.2, would a strong GRE score strengthen your app? (DNP-NA)
Are there any clinical placements in New York? It depends on the program, but in general there are very very few clinical placements due to New York State regulations.
Anthony Alvarez
12:40:06 PM
What does the schedule for a full-time DNP-NA student look like?
Can you explain how the oncology acute pediatric program differs from the acute pediatric program so our pediatric acute care programs have three different concentrations? Acute, chronic critical care? An oncology at the end of the day you are a licensed acute care pediatric nurse practitioner. You're not a on your license is not going to say pediatric acute care oncology NP. This is just your focus for the program, so.
George Metz
12:40:43 PM
If you already have a MSN, how many years since you’ve taken, patho, pharm, research, will those courses still count for transfer?
It helps you align a little more in where you want to focus, so your classes in your clinicals will be a bit more specific to that area.
Julbyen Gbukde
12:40:50 PM
Is the advert for the admission annually?
Emma Yu
12:40:51 PM
What are your policies for diversity admissions?
Ash Alaufi
12:40:53 PM
as international student does i need to applied for nclex exame , i am intersted to in staying leadershipe 9 master)
When can we expect to hear about interviews or acceptance to the program so the last slide I explained when you can expect to hear back again, it's on a rolling basis, will start reviewing applications after the deadline passed, so you might hear back in two weeks. You might not hear back from month, so we just ask for your patience because we have a lot of applications to get through.
Are most classes taking place in person or are they online so our programs, all of our programs are on campus this fall. Classes were offered remotely so they were online, but Clinicals and simulations were in person that will be evaluated every semester. We do not have any information right now and what's happening next year.
What will the schedule for a full time nurse anesthesia student look like? And I work full time or part time. As I mentioned, we strongly discourage working during the anesthesia program. You really don't have any time to work even part time. The schedule is very intense here in Class A few days a week and Clinicals a few days a week.
Yes, we can accept a statistics class over 10 years old.
For the DMP program or the interview scheduled on a rolling basis or at the end of April, no, you'll hear back by the end of April for your decision. Interviews typically take place between January and March.
Devonne Slade
12:42:26 PM
When considering experience, do you expect the applicant to have the designated experience by the date of application or the date of admission. I’m wondering because we would be matriculating in 2 years.
Ash Alaufi
12:42:36 PM
i got BSN form from usa
Blessy Varghese
12:42:56 PM
Would you please talk about post masters acute care NP program?
I'm currently taking some courses. Do you weigh heavily on the GPA or do you look at applicants holistically for the anesthesia program? How do you view in progress courses so we have a holistic application process for all of our programs. Academics are certainly important, but they aren't the only part of your application. We understand people retake classes, we understand people.
Anthony Alvarez
12:43:24 PM
thank you so much for taking the time to do this webinar!
Struggle in the beginning and then improve at in their BSN. We understand people had a tough first degree and then decided to do to do nursing and did much better so it's only one part of the process. If you are able to get your grades in for those in progress courses, that's great. Unfortunately, you know it's it's good that you're taking courses, but there's not much we can do with in progress courses unless we see agreed.
Emma Yu
12:43:36 PM
Does "Basic edu statistics course" in undergrad count towards the statistics requirement?
Charmaine Lim
12:43:40 PM
Which MSN programs are considered impacted?
I see you can submit your application before the letters of recommendation are submitted. Yes, you can. Our recommenders able to submit their letters past the deadline. Yes, we can usually give a day or two grace period for recommendations, but they should aim to submit by the deadline.
If your BSN is a second degree, can your Jerry requirement be waived? Yes, so the jury waiver is based on your BSN degree. No matter how many previous degrees that you've had before.
Is the BSN GPA consisting of only the upper level nursing courses or all courses that I have taken, so I assume this is about the jirari waiver and we are again looking at your cumulative BSN GPA so all courses that go into your BS?
How diverse is the student faculty body for the anesthesia program? That's a great question. I don't have the exact.
Breakdown we do have a wide variety of diverse students. We have many students participating in diversity C RNA. If you've heard of that program.
Charmaine Lim
12:45:03 PM
Can you speak a little more to the faculty mentorship you offer?
If you want to email me, I can get you some specific stats just because I don't have right in front of me.
If you have less than a 3.2 GPA with a strong Jerry score strength in your application, it might. Again, it really depends on the rest of your application. We also encourage an academic academic reference if you can get a strong academic reference.
If you already have an MSN, how many years since you've taken Patho Pharm research with those courses still count for transfer?
So court so transfer courses aren't guaranteed. Their only evaluated after you're offered admission.
An faculty will look at them. In general, we say around 10 years, but again, it depends.
What are your policies for diversity admissions? So again, we have a holistic application process. We're looking at the entire application. We look for diversity in all aspects. So not just. You know, maybe this standard ways that you might look at diversity, but your personal and your professional backgrounds. Your career goals.
Whatever brought you to nursing as well, we're looking to recruit a diverse cohort in terms of backgrounds, locations, personal and professional interests. So again, we don't have specific policies we're looking for. You know, a holistic class in a holistic process.
As an international student, do you need to take the ancl X exam so you would have to take the CGFNS certification exam and more information is available on our website for that?
If you are practicing outside the United States.
I think this is for the anesthesia program and considering experience to expect the applicant to have experienced by date of application or date of admission.
So for the anesthesia program we require two years of work experience by the time you matriculate again, are most competitive applicants have at least two years of work experience by the time they apply?
For Emma, asking about a specific stats course, if it was your required undergraduate statistics class for your program, it usually does count.
Charmaine asking which MSN programs are considered impacted. I'm not quite sure what you're asking, so if you're still here and you want to clarify.
Charmaine Lim
12:48:43 PM
How many applicants do you generally accept for the FNP full-time program?
Can you speak a little more to the faculty mentor ship you off for sure? So each student is assigned a faculty advisor and there in the program, and they're here to work with you with your plan of study. Help you think about you. Know if you're a full time student, you know there's not much flexibility if you're a part time student, what classes you want to take when are also available to talk about career goals that you want to get out of your clinicals if you're having?
Demy Wang
12:49:10 PM
For FNP MSN, when is the first day of clinical ? I will secure my RN license by July 2021, do yo
Any issues with anything at all? They are available as well. The programs you know really take good care of their students. They really get to know you. They are available for any questions that you might have. There's a lot of programming, even while we're all virtual that the faculty are doing to make sure that our students are supported.
Emma Yu
12:49:20 PM
How does the license work when we have need to work for different states during clinical? Sorry, I am not very familiar with the East coast.
Throughout this time, you know, since it's not just courses that people are dealing with or a lot of other things going on, so there's a lot of formal and informal mentorship available.
Larry Sears
12:49:25 PM
Sorry my question earlier was asking if you have greater than 3.2, would a strong GRE score strengthen the app or not be considered?
Here's a question. How many applicants do you generally, except for the FNP full-time program? So for all of our programs, we typically accept between 3020 to 30 applicants per year.
Julbyen Gbukde
12:50:05 PM
How long is the admission process?
How does the licensing work when we need to work for different states during clinicals on so you'll be notified early on if you are doing clinicals in New Jersey or Delaware. I believe they might be compact states, but otherwise you would just apply to get that clinical in that state.
Jalita King
12:50:11 PM
Is required work experience based off of a full time employment basis?
OK, so the question was if you have a greater, greater than 3.2 GPA was strong giori score strength in the app or not being considered again, it might you don't have to submit the Jirari.
Ola Omran
12:50:36 PM
what is your acceptance percentage rate?
So if you, if you haven't taken it, I personally would not take it if I didn't need to. Again, it could, but if your academics are not a concern to us, if you have significantly higher than 3.2, then you probably don't need to submit the Jirari.
His work experience based off of full time employment, yes.
Larry Sears
12:51:06 PM
Do you have info # of pool of applicants vs interview invitations?
What's your acceptance rate? We typically have between a 30 and 40% acceptance rate for our programs.
Larry Sears
12:51:09 PM
dnp
For anesthesia program we get about 140 applicants. We interview around 60 to 70 and we admit around 28 to 30.
Chinenye Ugonabo
12:51:33 PM
How many applicants do you typically receive for the psychiatric np program? and how many do you admit?
Devonne Slade
12:51:37 PM
I have been an ER RN for 10 years. I am now a RN in the cardiac ICU. I am applying to DNP-NA. I wouldn’t have 2 years of CICU experience till 2022. Should I wait to apply? I don’t want to delay unless necessary it’s great experience my unit is very critical, lots of hemodynamics, impellas, LVADS, swans, etc
So divine, you're asking, you wanted two years of ICU experience until 2022.
If you have the minimum amount of experience, you're welcome to apply, but again, our applicants typically have at least two years or more of experience by the time they apply, so.
That I leave that up to you.
Looks like questions are winding down, so if anyone has.
Another question or two I can take those.
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:52:37 PM
I have a question
Chinenye Ugonabo
12:52:44 PM
How many applicants do you typically receive for the psychiatric np program? and how many do you admit?
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:53:12 PM
You mentioned work experience is based off of full time employment? What about per diem status?
Charmaine Lim
12:53:12 PM
Same question as Chinenye for the FNP program
So for site program again we typically admit around 20 to 30 for psych.
We receive around 50 to 60 or so, so for all programs again our admission rate is anywhere between 30 to 40, sometimes around 50% depending on the program.
Claire Templeman
12:53:30 PM
Do you take into consideration what concentrations applicants want for the acute PNP program? For example is there a certain number of spots for the critical care concentration vs oncology concentration?
Again, work experience is calculated off full-time employment.
Innocent Onwubiko
12:53:44 PM
can we get the power point emailed d to us
Andrea London
12:53:55 PM
How many students are unsuccessful in the DNP-NA?
Emma Yu
12:54:06 PM
Does the letter of recommendation have to address the name of the program that I am applying for? Or can it be general? I wonder if it would more competitive to get a more specific letter towards my intended MSN specialty.
Do we take into consideration what concentrations applications one for the acute pediatric program? For example, is there certain more spots for critical care concentration versus oncology? Yes, so you are admitted into that specific concentration. So there are we. There are certain spots for again critical care versus oncology. Yes, this presentation will be emailed to you.
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:54:20 PM
Per diem working full time hours*
Does a letter of recommendation have to address the name of the program that I'm applying for, or can it be general? I wonder if it be more competitive to get a more specific letter. Yes, we recommend it. Be specific again, if your recommender can't really speak to the population that you're applying to, that's OK, but if they can, I would recommend getting a more specific letter.
Chinenye Ugonabo
12:54:58 PM
Are clinical placements typically during the week, weekend, or is that program-specific?
Otherwise, a general recommendation is OK. You know, maybe your current supervisor can only write a general letter, but can speak more about the qualities that you possess. That would make you a great nurse practitioner that's acceptable as well.
Lisa Kittisinchaikul
12:55:21 PM
program attrition rates?
Our clinical placements, typically during the week weekend or ZAP program specific canberry. They are typically during the week there, typically 16 hours a week to 8 hour shifts.
And for program attrition rates, I don't have the exact number, but the.
Larry Sears
12:56:03 PM
Do you prioritize adult exp over peds? Ex. Would adult CVICU be viewed as preferable over peds CVICU if they're both at an academic, level 1 hospital?
Vast majority upwards of 9095% typically complete the program that they've enrolled in.
George Metz
12:56:12 PM
Is the DNP component of the NA program mostly online?
Ola Omran
12:56:17 PM
so technically all your programs are on campus, but this year because of COVID you are functioning remotely
And this will be our last question, do you prioritize adult experience over peeds example? Would adult CV ICU be viewed as preferable for pieds? No, this is for the anesthesia program. I assume we do not prioritize adult over Pediatrics. We have many applicants coming from pediatric ICU, so that's up to you and your career goals.
And yes, just to clarify, our programs are all on campus, but this year due to the pandemic we are. Our classes are remotely, however simulations an clinicals are in person, it's just the classes that are online.
Charmaine Lim
12:57:14 PM
Thank you so much, this was helpful
Jalita King
12:57:16 PM
thank you!
Emma Yu
12:57:20 PM
Thank you!
Perpetua Auguste
12:57:27 PM
Thank You
So I'll end it there because we're almost at an hour. You will get this presentation email to you in a few days, so lookout for that email recorded presentations of all of our programs are also available in the same link that you'll be emailed. Any additional questions? Please feel free to email admissions at nursing.upenn.edu. Good luck with your application and we look forward to reading it.